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Title: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: VESPA on June 28, 2007, 01:30:36 PM
A lot of Classic PX riders have traded to a modern GT, LX and ET.  Are the Autoscooters better than the classic geared PX?

Personally i like the Vespa PX because of its vintage look and classic feel. I'd love   to own a GT because it has a powerful engine and also for ease of use.

Is the autoscoot realy bettter than our old classic PX?

Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: lex on June 28, 2007, 01:56:06 PM
masarap pa din geared for me... kahit mahirap minsan hehe  :D

(meaning = wala akong pambili ng GT)
hahaha jk

seriously, geared pa din ako... sana may geared na 4 stroke vespa... sarap!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: francis on June 28, 2007, 02:01:44 PM
pareho tayo lex. wala pambili automatic e.   ;D

geared pa din for me. I would like to have an automatic pero I'll still keep my geared vespa ;)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: spank me on June 28, 2007, 02:26:07 PM
pareho tayo lex. wala pambili automatic e.   ;D

geared pa din for me. I would like to have an automatic pero I'll still keep my geared vespa ;)

chong, if given the chance na katulad nung sakin na pinag agawan ng mga financers sa la union, would you give up your geared vespa?hhhhhmmmmmm(http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Thinking/thinking-023.GIF)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: bartmaniac on June 28, 2007, 02:29:33 PM
I like the classic look of a Vespa PX that's why I chose it.

If Vespa ever comes out of an automatic with the classic lines, I wouldn't think twice and buy it. Kaso mukang this is unlikely so I'm okay with a geared scoot. I think I'm weird in a way since I couldn't trade the look for convenience/power. ;)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Anaklupa on June 28, 2007, 02:37:14 PM
I like the classic look of a Vespa PX that's why I chose it.

If Vespa ever comes out of an automatic with the classic lines, I wouldn't think twice and buy it. Kaso mukang this is unlikely so I'm okay with a geared scoot. I think I'm weird in a way since I couldn't trade the look for convenience/power. ;)

Form over function forever!  :)

Ideal kung meron kang isang PX at isang GT.  Best of both worlds.  Budget lang talaga problema.   ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Scoot65 on June 28, 2007, 03:08:43 PM
"Personally i like the Vespa PX because of its vintage look and classic feel"

That's my view also. I love the classic style of scooter.

It would be great if we could get a 250cc PX (with gears).

From what I've heard about the GT / GTS,  I'd certainly like the power, liquid cooling etc

Dave.... 8) 
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: francis on June 28, 2007, 04:44:22 PM
chong, if given the chance na katulad nung sakin na pinag agawan ng mga financers sa la union, would you give up your geared vespa?hhhhhmmmmmm(http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Thinking/thinking-023.GIF)
hahaha! oo nga noh! kaw pa namimili...  ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: randypogi on June 28, 2007, 04:50:54 PM
when i was planning to buy a vespa at 2211, my priority was an ET4.  there were a yellow PX150 and a pistacio ET4 side by side.  i had a hard time choosing between the two.  classic vs modern, style vs convenience and price etc...so what i did, i closed my eyes for 2 seconds and check which scoot attracts me the best.  5 times ko ata ginawa yun process.  hahahaha... ;D  kahit yellow ang color ng PX150 at muka akong yellow cab delivery, i picked the PX over the ET. everytime i opened my eyes ang nakikita ko was the yellow PX!  :D i had my PX repainted last 2005 having a classic look and theme.  though i recently got an LX150, the LX has the classic look of the PX with its round headlights, IMHO. i will never dispose the PX.  for me, its form over function but its the best of both worlds having a classic and a modern vespa!  ;D   
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: silver2tone on June 28, 2007, 04:57:03 PM
I like the geared PX, there's nothing like it :) I did not travel far with my first PX, but then I went to Mt Data recently on my second PX, sarap pala sa twisties.
Pero yung matic, nice touring bike. Long ride with lotsa straights, bring the automatic, short ride with many twisties, take the PX.
My PX kasi has an Ancilloti seat, not very comfy on long rides, and also sebacs which are stiffer than stock, again not very comfy.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: lex on June 28, 2007, 05:07:11 PM
and also sebacs which are stiffer than stock, again not very comfy.

but very nice when cornering, right corrine... ?
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: rastaman on June 28, 2007, 05:11:31 PM
sarap ng gt pambiyahe..poblema lang baka sa sobra tahimek at comportable baka managinip kana habang nag dridrive.. ;D

cometothinkofit i didnt answer da questionez..hehehe ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: silver2tone on June 28, 2007, 05:34:30 PM
but very nice when cornering, right corrine... ?
oh yes...:D sarap!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: pinascoot on June 28, 2007, 07:15:17 PM
Napaisip ako dito ah! Good topic...

A lot of Classic PX riders have traded to a modern GT, LX and ET.  Are the Autoscooters better than the classic geared PX?

Personally i like the Vespa PX because of its vintage look and classic feel. I'd love   to own a GT because it has a powerful engine and also for ease of use.

Is the autoscoot realy bettter than our old classic PX?


Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: pinascoot on June 28, 2007, 07:39:41 PM
For me Brian's question is very good but will not hold water in 25 or so years since the GT and PX  will be both considered classics (matic or manual). No offense Bri.  :)

My answer to the question though, is pareho lang sila.

In my opinion, the lines of the GT200, save the spaceship looking handlebar and modern rear rack, are classic vespa lines. We see it as a modern shaped vespa pero look at the uncanny legshield and the profile. Classic na classic na vespa!

Baka ito yung model in 50 years na sasabihin ng apo natin na "GT! ...vintage vespa ng lolo ko yan! That was sought after by guys who knew what they wanted ahead of their time back then...." Bla Etc Bla

Is it not we say that now about the GS and other vespa/lambretta old models we see now? They were advance scooters in their time.

I think the GT represents the 'now' of vespa world. The PX too, but the GT looks and  feels like the best new thing that came out of the scootering market. And I am glad to be a part of this new era.  :D

I adore those fully restored vintage scoots we see on the roads now. I sometimes wonder who was the first owner of that cool scoot, why did he choose that model, what was he like, tumatambay kaya sya sa Metrowalk? hihihi …But seriously, us 'now', with our GT's and PX's, we and our scoots are apart of this current scootering moment! The era where autamatic and manual vespa's are seen differently but actually are kind of the same.

In other words, I see the PX and GT are one and the same in shape and form and only differ in terms of the engine configuration.

I like them both. If fact I like them all. From the 40's to the millennium. I love all vespas. Second to only sailing though :)

cheers
edmund
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkpal on June 28, 2007, 08:12:46 PM
i rode a PX for eight years. i loved it, specially after the upgrades (disc brake, hydraulic shocks). the engine stayed stock though. in everyday use, it was great; nimble, maneuverable, terrific on corners. it was fast enough in the city. it turned heads.
and even on the long rides (and i've been practically everywhere), despite the discomfort sometimes, it held its own.

as you guys know, i've just traded up to a GT. immediately, i've taken note of the differences: more power, more stability, the quiet and comfort (so far,anyway).
while i've not taken it on a long ride, i can already anticipate that the experience will be much different from that of a PX. but the GT is heavier and does not maneuver as easily as the PX does. i suppose these are the trade-offs.

in the end, i'd go with my ideal scenario: having both. given the opportunity, i'd gladly get me a PX again, to go with the GT.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: booblanco on June 28, 2007, 09:56:37 PM
hypothetically, would any of you buy a geared ET, LX or GT?
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: lex on June 28, 2007, 10:29:07 PM
hypothetically, would any of you buy a geared ET, LX or GT?

yan dream ko, geared GT!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: kapemuna on June 28, 2007, 10:55:40 PM
question lang, bakit kaya hindi na naglabas ang piaggio ng geared na model?
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: bartmaniac on June 28, 2007, 11:00:01 PM
question lang, bakit kaya hindi na naglabas ang piaggio ng geared na model?

or ng 'matic pero old school ang dating? :)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: randypogi on June 29, 2007, 06:36:31 AM
or ng 'matic pero old school ang dating? :)

oo nga naman!  dahil strict na ang EU sa emission bakit hindi maglabas ng 4 stroke
na automatic na classic PX?  ::)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: vespinoy on June 29, 2007, 06:56:20 AM
john,
Matic na old school? Vespa GTV and Vespa LXV. :D

I doubt if Piaggio will come out with a geared 4 stroke Vespa.  Piaggio is a highly progressive company willing to take risks in churning out new models of bikes.  They rely heavily on new technology in the design of their scoots/bikes.  Some of the bikes have been huge hits and some have been less than ideal (DNA and Vespa COSA hehe).  I think they'll stick to CVT's for their current and future line ups.  And the news that the PX will be reaching it's EOL (end of line) this year really doesn't help any too.

But I hope I'm wrong.  Imagine a PX with a GT engine.  HEAVEN!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: jjmichaels on June 29, 2007, 06:56:35 AM
A lot of Classic PX riders have traded to a modern GT, LX and ET.  Are the Autoscooters better than the classic geared PX?

Personally i like the Vespa PX because of its vintage look and classic feel. I'd love   to own a GT because it has a powerful engine and also for ease of use.

Is the autoscoot realy bettter than our old classic PX?



Babalik din sila sa PX/Vitto.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: vesvicoy on June 29, 2007, 07:20:05 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: rastaman on June 29, 2007, 07:26:08 AM
Babalik din sila sa PX/Vitto.

hehehe.. ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: PIETROS PIZZA on June 29, 2007, 07:32:16 AM
Geared.

Practically speaking, price value, i'd go for the PX. The price won't depreciate it comes out to me as an investment at the same time a work horse.

VESPA,

Bring this question up at the latter part of the year. I'd like to make a study on pricing of both units.  :D :D


regards,

e
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: jjmichaels on June 29, 2007, 07:35:40 AM
Hehe i made my fearless forecast na to Pal and Ton last month.  The PX/Vitto is the only scooter (or 2 wheeled machine) that appreciates in price in Manila.  Everything else depreciates with no exception!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: PIETROS PIZZA on June 29, 2007, 07:48:54 AM
I was just thinking about that casa thing percentage depreciation. That is why i chose the PX.

Imagine you bought your VESPA at the year 1997 for P52,000. Now people sell their PX not below P85,000. Wow  :o

Market Value of the PX200 goes even higher than the GT. Wow  :o

BUT, if i had MONEY, which i dont, I would also keep an automatic scooter like the LX150. I like it..
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: jjmichaels on June 29, 2007, 07:51:57 AM
Mismo Gene!

For those who want to finance brand new Vitto units i can hook you up with Clifford Finance.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: booblanco on June 29, 2007, 08:03:45 AM
which brings us to the next hypothetical question..

if corradino d' ascanio (1891-1981) and enrico piaggio (probably dead too) were still alive in 1996, would 4-stroke, centrally-mounted engine automatics like the ET have come out?

pampabulabog ze brain eh?  :D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: PIETROS PIZZA on June 29, 2007, 08:13:39 AM
I was speaking only as Price Wise/Value wise for an option thats why i went for a PX.

Boo,

not yet. Automatic transmission for the scooters came out later but installed in a PK series with a 2 stroke engine. Then came out with the hexagon, skipper,gileras still on a 2stroke engine, etc. By the late nineties they came out with a new design body and engine for the Vespa like the Ets, LX, and the GTs using a four stroke engine. Enrico Piaggio II naman is still alive riding a PX200.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Daddy D on June 29, 2007, 08:56:50 AM

What's the feedback on the PK 125?  I know this model was not really that popular or at least did not sell that many units.  However, this model seems to be the compromise since it has the classic retro design but is also automatic.

I have a friend who will take a look at a PK 125 tomorrow.  Your comments on this particular model will be appreciated so I could pass these on to him.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: johos on June 29, 2007, 09:50:34 AM
Hehehe interesting discussion po.  I would like to own both but my simple lifestyle dictates that I own only just one bike, in this case a Px hindi pa po ako nagsasawa sa Px.  I had my eyes on Lizzie since it was owned by Sonny unfortunately I was too slow as it quickly changed hands.  I share the same POV of Eugene regarding the cost of a brand new GT, the Ilocano in me tells me to wait for some good pre-owned GTs to hit the market. Some say that when you come across an Italian machine the experience is not just visual and tactile but they also appeal to the sense of sound. A Ferrari and a Ducati makes a certain sound that is characteristic only of itself and this is very much the same with a Vespa Px.  Aliw pa po ako sa pot pot pot sound, that 2 stroke scent, the left hand shifting, the vibration, the spare tire...but I'm still buying a GT in time  ;D.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: booblanco on June 29, 2007, 10:08:35 AM
now i haven't ridden on a GT, but one thing peculiar when i ride my et, the ride and the engine response reminds me a lot of my px. i've tried other scoots and maxi-scoots, parang iba yung ride nila. i don't know why.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Anaklupa on June 29, 2007, 10:11:49 AM
What's the feedback on the PK 125?  I know this model was not really that popular or at least did not sell that many units.  However, this model seems to be the compromise since it has the classic retro design but is also automatic.

I have a friend who will take a look at a PK 125 tomorrow.  Your comments on this particular model will be appreciated so I could pass these on to him.  Thanks.


Ang kupad, pre.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Bayani on June 29, 2007, 11:58:17 AM
To all!

I enjoyed reading your exchanges. I am new here and really would like to own a scoot like what you have now.

Appreciate if you could advice me what is the ideal vespa to own, financial and for keeps consideration.

maraming salamat po
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Daddy D on June 29, 2007, 01:08:34 PM
To all!

I enjoyed reading your exchanges. I am new here and really would like to own a scoot like what you have now.

Appreciate if you could advice me what is the ideal vespa to own, financial and for keeps consideration.

maraming salamat po

As this thread has shown, your final choice will really depend on your preferences and priorities.  Better yet, join us during our regular Wednesday get-togethers so that you can see our rides and you can get a better idea on what you finally choose.

Welcome to Vespinoy!  I hope you are not the Bayani who is the topic of the other thread...

Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkyey on June 29, 2007, 01:41:54 PM
In my lifetime, I have owned 2 Hexagons, an X9, 2 PX150's, a P200, a PX200 and now, a GT. Each and every scoot had its own quirk. Walang magkapareho. Masarap lahat. Kung kaya lang talaga, itatago ko silang lahat. But, I just can't afford it. I just enjoy the scooter that I have at any given time.

Wala na tayong pinag-usapan about the PXs. The truth about its value appreciating is just phenomenal. If I had the money, I would have kept Pilar. But the truth is, maski gaano ko kagusto magka-PX, my weight just doesn't seem to agree with it.

The Hexagons were fun. Mabilis. Masarap dalhin. But the styling just got dated. Tapos may issues pa about the electricals.

The X9 was, well, the ultimate maxi-scoot. Ang sarap! Pasado sa SLEX. Maganda. Pero yun na yun. After the puzzle rack, wala ka ng magawa sa kaniya. Kung mahilig ka mag lagay ng kung anu-ano, eh, medyo mabobore ka. Then, there's the issue about the instrument cluster. Hay, naku. Masakit sa ulo ito. Mahirap rin hanapan ng gulong at kung makahanap ka naman, mahal at kailangan pa dalhin sa shop para palitan. Mahal rin yung mga consumables like the belt, rollers, etc. Pagdating naman sa biyahe, habang lahat e pagod na, ikaw naman e cool na cool lang because of the comfort it gives.

The GT has been with me for only a month. Lizzie belongs to the first batch of GTs that arrived here in the Philippines. So far so good. Malakas. Masarap dalhin except for the wobble issue. But, is a Vespa and is automatic. Ano pa hihingin mo? The downside is that it doesn't have the resale value of the PX. I'm sure pag dumating na ang GTS and GTV, babagsak na ang presyo nito. A fact that I learned the hard way with my experience with owning modern scooters. Pag dating dito, medyo talo to own a modern scoot.

But as I said, what is important is enjoying what you have for the the time being. Ang importante ay yung ma-enjoy mo yung ride mo. Walang resale value? E kung nasagad mo naman, sulit na yun, di ba? Kung kaya, bilhin mo lahat ng gusto mo. Kung hindi, yun na nga, enjoy and make sure that you and your scoot have the best time together.

Yan naman, e sa tingin ko lang.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: vexel9 on June 29, 2007, 02:20:58 PM

Welcome to Vespinoy!  I hope you are not the Bayani who is the topic of the other thread...


But then again, hopefully it IS so we can figure out what he was thinking!

As for your question Bayani, i don't think you'll be able to get a definitive answer, geared or automatic. The guys who have extensively tried/owned both geared and automatic vespas might be able to give you some insight but ultimately they will still choose to own both if possible. If asked to choose only one then personal preference really comes into play. The thing with vespas is its really more than just about comfort or practicality or even looks. Its how it makes you feel, the emotion that it elicits from you that matters the most i think. The fact that its also reliable, practical and good looking well, thats just gravy.

As with most things i think the best way to answer your question Bayani is to give a complete description of how you plan to use it before anyone can recommend either a geared or automatic.

Personally i like the gears, whether on a scoot or on a car. I get sleepy with automatics. But then again im a weekend rider at best with ocassional long rides every few months so the PX suits me just fine. However if i rode everyday and i regularly do 400+ km long rides then an LX or GT might be better.

Now if there was a GEARED LX or GT, thats something else!

Here's another related question for everyone.

If you were asked to pick ONE vespa to own and it would be the only one you could own for the rest of your life what would it be?
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: pinascoot on June 29, 2007, 02:32:39 PM
Babalik din sila sa PX/Vitto.

I disagree.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: jjmichaels on June 29, 2007, 03:32:12 PM

The GT has been with me for only a month. Lizzie belongs to the first batch of GTs that arrived here in the Philippines. So far so good. Malakas. Masarap dalhin except for the wobble issue. But, is a Vespa and is automatic. Ano pa hihingin mo? The downside is that it doesn't have the resale value of the PX. I'm sure pag dumating na ang GTS and GTV, babagsak na ang presyo nito. A fact that I learned the hard way with my experience with owning modern scooters. Pag dating dito, medyo talo to own a modern scoot.

Tama si Yey sa honest opinion nya.

Eto si Gary V.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijIkQO32QMo
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: silver2tone on June 29, 2007, 04:15:42 PM
Here's another related question for everyone.

If you were asked to pick ONE vespa to own and it would be the only one you could own for the rest of your life what would it be?

The PX pa rin. For me, what jjmichaels posted holds true...babalik pa rin sa PX :).

Can you let me have the luxury of owning TWO (at the same time...because as of last count I have owned 5...right now I have 3 :D)?  The PX and the ET8. Intriguing? But that's how I feel, and that's just me :).
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: aaron on June 29, 2007, 04:28:28 PM
napa isip ata ako sa topic na to ah ??? :o 8) ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: makoy on June 29, 2007, 04:46:28 PM
ako vitto pa rin. layo ng sagot ko. ahihihi
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: grimace on June 29, 2007, 05:57:32 PM
napa isip ata ako sa topic na to ah ??? :o 8) ;D


naguguluhan ka na b?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: vexel9 on June 29, 2007, 06:28:35 PM
The PX pa rin. For me, what jjmichaels posted holds true...babalik pa rin sa PX :).

Can you let me have the luxury of owning TWO (at the same time...because as of last count I have owned 5...right now I have 3 :D)?  The PX and the ET8. Intriguing? But that's how I feel, and that's just me :).

Hi silver2tone! I think if we all had the luxury of owning two then this exercise would be a lot easier. the fun part is trying to pick only one if it was the only one you could have for the rest of your life. I think only the guys (and gals like yourself) who have extensive experience with both geared and automatic can truly answer this question.

Nice tat btw!  ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: mackyo on June 29, 2007, 10:18:17 PM
nice topic here!

when i decided to buy a scooter, the first vespa i was able to test was an et4.  swabe and comfortable!  twist and go!  was about to buy it when my current px showed up...  tried to ride it eventhough it was palyado and with the confusing (for the px virgin) left-hand shifting, i thought it was a scoot not meant for everybody.  but the px just oozed with appeal and with my limited budget, i ended up with the px. 

best for me would still be the px or the gs....  because of its appeal  :)  but i wouldn't mind owning a gt if i had the dough!  ;D   


 
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: spank me on June 30, 2007, 01:57:35 AM
guys, you all said it all. you all want the PX but given the chance, will go for the GT. hmmmmmm.

for me, thinking about cheap maintainance and the wash and wear mentality, the PX is definitely for you. but the GT is so..............(bite the lip and say nothing)(http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Respect/respect-046.gif)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: silver2tone on June 30, 2007, 10:46:39 AM
guys, you all said it all. you all want the PX but given the chance, will go for the GT. hmmmmmm.

for me, thinking about cheap maintainance and the wash and wear mentality, the PX is definitely for you. but the GT is so..............(bite the lip and say nothing)(http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Respect/respect-046.gif)
so unreachable for common folk like me hehehe :D
honestly, the PX is so unique that's why i choose it if i can only have one..ayan vexel ha.
there are so many automatic scoots and so very few geared ones. i want the PX, given the chance to have a GT...i will probably buy a Honda  Hornet wahahahaha but again, that's just me.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: lex on June 30, 2007, 11:09:18 AM
wala nagbago na si tonton.. inaapi kami sa bicol, mga naka px...  :D :D :D
joke lang...

Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: vesvicoy on June 30, 2007, 11:41:03 AM
given the chance...i'll get also a gt pero sa pangarap na lang yun.
buti pa si slick at si tatay sonny di nila problema yung prinoproblema natin. they have a collection of so many vespas. name it and they have it....
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: bhong08 on June 30, 2007, 05:07:39 PM
yakang yaka mo naman pare,hehehe ;D


nice topic here!

when i decided to buy a scooter, the first vespa i was able to test was an et4.  swabe and comfortable!  twist and go!  was about to buy it when my current px showed up...  tried to ride it eventhough it was palyado and with the confusing (for the px virgin) left-hand shifting, i thought it was a scoot not meant for everybody.  but the px just oozed with appeal and with my limited budget, i ended up with the px. 

best for me would still be the px or the gs....  because of its appeal  :)  but i wouldn't mind owning a gt if i had the dough!  ;D   


 
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: spank me on June 30, 2007, 07:39:04 PM
wala nagbago na si tonton.. inaapi kami sa bicol, mga naka px...  :D :D :D
joke lang...



hehehehehehe
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: jjmichaels on July 01, 2007, 08:04:56 AM
Mananatili naman ang Vitto dito kaya pwede kayo bumalik sa classic geared scooter pag nag sawa na kayo.  Brand new na naka-disc brake pa ito mga balikbayan!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkyey on July 01, 2007, 08:09:46 AM
Sa tanong lang kung ano ang itatago kung isa lang ang pwede...PX no doubt.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: marks on July 01, 2007, 08:48:47 PM
the best sa akin lahat ng vespa models pero ang pinaka the best tayong mga vespinoy!

ayos! ingat! apir!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: booblanco on July 01, 2007, 08:53:04 PM
the best sa akin lahat ng vespa models pero ang pinaka the best tayong mga vespinoy!

ayos! ingat! apir!

pulitikong-pulitiko ang dating ha mark?  :D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: lex on July 01, 2007, 08:55:19 PM
the best sa akin lahat ng vespa models pero ang pinaka the best tayong mga vespinoy!

ayos! ingat! apir!

ang safe mo mark! ... ayaw mo ba makasakit? hahaha jk
try mo mag-geared!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: spank me on July 01, 2007, 08:55:34 PM
ika nga ng sexbomb dancers:

"kung ano ang nasa puso mo, sundin mo!"(http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Music/choreography-048.gif)

Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: rastaman on July 02, 2007, 07:07:55 AM
the best sa akin lahat ng vespa models pero ang pinaka the best tayong mga vespinoy!

ayos! ingat! apir!

mismo bro the best vespinoy konti jologs hehehehe ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: scootmd on July 02, 2007, 08:36:39 AM
What's the feedback on the PK 125?  I know this model was not really that popular or at least did not sell that many units.  However, this model seems to be the compromise since it has the classic retro design but is also automatic.

I have a friend who will take a look at a PK 125 tomorrow.  Your comments on this particular model will be appreciated so I could pass these on to him.  Thanks.


FYI, If its the 1983 model of the PK125 Automatic, its the missing link from the geared to the first CVT transmission, 6000 units were only built from 1983-1984 correct me if i wrong. This was a "Technological experiment" which gave way to the automatic CVT transmission used by all automatics, cars as well.   Ang galing!!!!!!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: scootmd on July 02, 2007, 08:42:34 AM
Ako basta VESPA, wala ng iba!!!! Ma-pa manual or automatic!!!!!  I will not trade any vespa to any other bike i have tried.....IMHO lang ;)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: dmd316 on July 02, 2007, 11:53:58 AM
isang PX...

isang GT...

at isang vintage...

THE BEST!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: eurotrash on July 02, 2007, 11:59:21 AM


   Being the lucky one to be asked by Slick to park some of his scoots at my house, I have tried both geared and automatic Vespas. For me i would still keep the PX because that is the classic Vespa but if you want the comfort of a twist and go then by all means go for the GTs. Thats just my opinion.  :)

 
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: bimmerman5 on July 02, 2007, 12:17:38 PM
for me the PX i restored is keeping up with the daily ride i do, from the time it was stock at ngayong meron na syang uumph  ;D it has the classic look that will stay for only god knows till when hehe..as for the GT, i tried spank me's GT, and as ton said..mapapakagat labi ka talaga when you hit the throttle,very responsive and nimble..kaya bigla akong napa sekand tot if im gonna get a matic na..still thinking up to now..baka pag hindi ako maunahan ni anaklupa dun sa gusto namin, malamang next month may matic na ako hehe
as direkyey said, for keeps..PX tayo! lets roll!!! ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Anaklupa on July 02, 2007, 01:07:51 PM
for me the PX i restored is keeping up with the daily ride i do, from the time it was stock at ngayong meron na syang uumph  ;D it has the classic look that will stay for only god knows till when hehe..as for the GT, i tried spank me's GT, and as ton said..mapapakagat labi ka talaga when you hit the throttle,very responsive and nimble..kaya bigla akong napa sekand tot if im gonna get a matic na..still thinking up to now..baka pag hindi ako maunahan ni anaklupa dun sa gusto namin, malamang next month may matic na ako hehe
as direkyey said, for keeps..PX tayo! lets roll!!! ;D

sa yo na, pre.   ::)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Daddy D on July 02, 2007, 01:11:36 PM

FYI, If its the 1983 model of the PK125 Automatic, its the missing link from the geared to the first CVT transmission, 6000 units were only built from 1983-1984 correct me if i wrong. This was a "Technological experiment" which gave way to the automatic CVT transmission used by all automatics, cars as well.   Ang galing!!!!!!


Thanks, scootmd.  Will tell my friend about this.

Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: dragonboy1 on July 02, 2007, 05:22:34 PM
i often use my et on long rides and daily commute to and from the office but the px is really.....hmmmm......tsk.....teka.....um..... magamit nga muna px ko s#!t tagal na palang naka park neto dito hehehehe :D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: randypogi on July 02, 2007, 08:56:55 PM
na checkpoint nga ako last saturday 3pm sa nagtahan cor magsaysay, magagalang at mababait naman ang mga pulis.  after presenting all the papers eh nakipagkwentuhan pa yung mga pulis sa scoot.  natuwa sila sa classic vintage look.  sana lahat ng pulis katulad nila.  i will never dispose my PX...classic talaga!  ;D

sa long ride, then automatic (LX) is more comfortable kasi twist & go lang.  :D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: spank me on July 02, 2007, 11:22:37 PM
, i tried spank me's GT, and as ton said..mapapakagat labi ka talaga

nak ng teteng, ako pa pala ang may kasalanan :P
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: bimmerman5 on July 03, 2007, 08:52:56 AM
nak ng teteng, ako pa pala ang may kasalanan :P

oo ton! kaw ang may sala! ;D nauubligahan tuloy akong mag trabaho para magkarun ng pambili ng matic hehe
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkpal on July 03, 2007, 01:40:13 PM
pasingit lang -
when i had max, i said to myself that i wouldn't ever let her go, unless they came out with a 4-stroke manual tranny scooter.
now that i ride a granturismo, i still say that given the resources, i would want to re-acquire a PX. maybe even max again  :)
iba talaga ang old classic...
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Bayani on July 03, 2007, 02:13:05 PM
Maraming salamat sa lahat ng komentaryo! very much appreciated!

Evaluating all the opinion and on personal preference, I will look for a PX.

Dasal, dasal, dasal............. San kaya ako makakakuha ng kaya ng pitak?

More power to you all!!!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkpal on July 03, 2007, 03:03:44 PM
pare -
madami kang pwedeng makausap dito tungkol sa pagkakaroon ng PX.
si slick; si jjmmichaels; si sonny navarro (kahit di siya nago-online; ipagtanong mo nalang ang number niya).

maraming tindero dito. kaibigan natin silang lahat.  :)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Daddy D on July 03, 2007, 04:00:48 PM
pare -
madami kang pwedeng makausap dito tungkol sa pagkakaroon ng PX.
si slick; si jjmmichaels; si sonny navarro (kahit di siya nago-online; ipagtanong mo nalang ang number niya).

maraming tindero dito. kaibigan natin silang lahat.  :)

Dagdag na rin sina macky, eurotrash at markot.  I think that the PXs that they posted are still available.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: markot on July 03, 2007, 04:06:01 PM
ahem! ahem! ;)

http://www.vespinoy.com/forum/index.php?topic=1016.0 (http://www.vespinoy.com/forum/index.php?topic=1016.0)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: booblanco on July 03, 2007, 04:12:27 PM
i would want to re-acquire a PX. maybe even max again  :)

sabay kanta (ala ate guy) "together again.."  :D

@ Bayani
spare yourself from the trouble of slowly building the millennium look and spring for the 2001-up PX200 or PX150. you'll be spending thereabouts anyway if you plan on taking the full conversion route that i did.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: lex on July 03, 2007, 04:22:00 PM
sabay kanta (ala ate guy) "together again.."  :D

@ Bayani
spare yourself from the trouble of slowly building the millennium look and spring for the 2001-up PX200 or PX150. you'll be spending thereabouts anyway if you plan on taking the full conversion route that i did.

pero boo masarap din unti-unti ang upgrade.. pag may pera, unti unti bili ng parts :)  exciting, at you have something to look forward to ...

goodluck!! goodluck!!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkpal on July 03, 2007, 04:22:06 PM
sabay kanta (ala ate guy) "together again.."  :D

boo -
i'll be the first to sing if it ever happens. or would you prefer the original guy & pip recording?  ;D

marko -
sori sori i forgot to include you, mamang poging tindero  ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: pinascoot on July 03, 2007, 04:56:16 PM
Just for fun, going back to the question. If I had to choose one, I'd pick the GT.

Why?
1. Per mr nam, there's an estimate of 2,000 PX/LML in the Philippines. not sure if this is the right number pero def masrami sa 15 GT's in here now.
   a. Based on these numbers, it would be easier to find a px than a gt for sale.
   b. The law of supply and demand is a stronger factor against depreciation.

2. It is seldom na papililiin ako between a 90k and a 250k vespa. and since this is a hypothetical question, i choose the top of the line. Basta ang pabayad ko ay hypothetical na 250k din. ;)

3. the GT200 may very well be the next PX. Only time can tell. Wish ko lang. hihihi

No pun intended. :)

PS, hindi ako babalik dahil hindi naman ako umalis.  ;D




Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: booblanco on July 03, 2007, 05:20:26 PM
pero boo masarap din unti-unti ang upgrade..

in a word, pareng lex, HINDI  :D

kaya lang, if there's anything i appreciated, it's having bought from different suppliers and knowing which part came from whom.
ito galing sa 22, ito kay Bryan, ito kay Sonny, ito kay Rico, ito kay Eugene & bro, ito kay JonE, ito sa EMC, ito sa Veloci, ito sa Motoworld, ito sa Madrid, ito sa Rome, ito sa Athens..

sorry pag may nakalimutan ako, but thank you sa inyong lahat mga ser at pasensya na sa pagtawad ko! natapos na rin. :D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkpal on July 03, 2007, 05:33:55 PM
boo -
aba e, dapat makita na yan, para ma-toast na natin ang mga "bago" sa vespa mo.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: makoy on July 03, 2007, 06:32:16 PM
Just for fun, going back to the question. If I had to choose one, I'd pick the GT.

Why?
1. Per mr nam, there's an estimate of 2,000 PX/LML in the Philippines. not sure if this is the right number pero def masrami sa 15 GT's in here now.
   a. Based on these numbers, it would be easier to find a px than a gt for sale.
   b. The law of supply and demand is a stronger factor against depreciation.

2. It is seldom na papililiin ako between a 90k and a 250k vespa. and since this is a hypothetical question, i choose the top of the line. Basta ang pabayad ko ay hypothetical na 250k din. ;)

3. the GT200 may very well be the next PX. Only time can tell. Wish ko lang. hihihi

No pun intended. :)

PS, hindi ako babalik dahil hindi naman ako umalis.  ;D







tsip pinascoot, ang veloci po ay nakapagpasok ng 1000 units ng px italy at lml combined na po yan ha, 15 hexagons, 12pcs et4 125, 8skippers, 10 typhoons. san poh ng galing yung extra 1000 units ng PX po? precise po ang numbers na binigay ko.

ang tanong ko po lang may demand po ba ang GT? suwerte ang mga nakakuha ng GT kung sa ganun.

kaya GT po ang pinili nyo sabi po ni sir resty na mayaman po daw kayo.. May PX at GT daw po kayo. Kaya di talaga kayo umalis.. ahihihi  ;D

Peace po sir pinascoot! pang vitto lang po ako.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: vespinoy on July 03, 2007, 07:14:53 PM

tsip pinascoot, ang veloci po ay nakapagpasok ng 1000 units ng px italy at lml combined na po yan ha, 15 hexagons, 12pcs et4 125, 8skippers, 10 typhoons. san poh ng galing yung extra 1000 units ng PX po? precise po ang numbers na binigay ko.

ang tanong ko po lang may demand po ba ang GT? suwerte ang mga nakakuha ng GT kung sa ganun.

kaya GT po ang pinili nyo sabi po ni sir resty na mayaman po daw kayo.. May PX at GT daw po kayo. Kaya di talaga kayo umalis.. ahihihi  ;D

Peace po sir pinascoot! pang vitto lang po ako.

I'm impressed with your knowledge of the numbers of these units, it's obvious you know something about scoots whatever game you're playing on the site it's all good but I would highly appreciate it if you would refrain from jumping at the opportunity to correct, rather harshly, those who have, apparently, the wrong information.

Demand for the GT? Yes there is.  The GT has finally become available and affordable to those who may have the means to buy it.  There may not be as much as the PX/Vitto but there's a growing market for these new automatic Vespas.

And btw, your "mayaman po daw kayo" statement just rubs me the wrong way.

We're a very small community and a tight one nonetheless, I think we can act with a bit more class than that.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: booblanco on July 03, 2007, 07:48:15 PM
i've stopped looking into the numbers and values where the geared vespa is concerned. it's the the little darn machine that could! it totally defies convention in more ways than one.

it has proven its fair share of naysayers wrong through the years. the laws of supply and demand that stopped veloci and emc from bringing in italian PX units certainly didn't stop 2211 and our privateers from bringing in these scoots and bits against the odds. heck, our scoots are still running and that's what matters eh?

if there are figures that do matter to me, it will definitely be about pricing. a choice between a new P180-190T PX150 versus a P250T GT200 is simply too close to call and will ultimately be a judgment call in relation to one's needs, priorities and means.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: grimace on July 03, 2007, 08:27:31 PM
basta ako masaya na sa px ko. . ;D ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkpal on July 03, 2007, 09:13:14 PM
And btw, your "mayaman po daw kayo" statement just rubs me the wrong way.

We're a very small community and a tight one nonetheless, I think we can act with a bit more class than that.

well said, vespinoy.
yun lang.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: jjmichaels on July 03, 2007, 11:14:32 PM
IMHO, Yey has pretty much summed it up early on. hehe

The simplicity of the automatics will always be dear to me because of the 2 trophies on my den. hehe but seriously, the low maintenance and gasoline consumption are some of it's strong points not to mention it is the easiest to ride thus requires almost zero skill level in terms of hand eye coordination.  Kung mahilig kang mangalikot, the trade off is other than additional power there's practically nothing else to do with an automatic after.

The PX (manual transmission) though initially difficult to ride uncannily grows and grows more and more each day.  It has presented new challenges every time to me whether rebuilding/restoring from scratch, owning and maintaining them to (eto challenge talaga sa akin) riding them fast or trying to race them.
It's also the only 2 wheeled machine that can easily reflect the owners personality. You want the vintage look... single seat, white sides, white rubbers lang.  You want a sporty look and feel... race seats, engine kit, pipe. Character? Easy! Multi-coloring it or a MOD set up with flashy mirrors and all.

Whatever your type, the PX can be anything and most everything you want it to be which is at this stage hard to beat.  The resale value speaks for itself.

My 2 centavos lang.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: aaron on July 04, 2007, 08:58:48 AM
sa akin lang ha ;)la pa din cguro tatalo sa appeal ng px worldwide ;D at la pa din cguro na bike na tatalo sa performance ng px in all aspect >:( yun lan po :P
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: PIETROS PIZZA on July 04, 2007, 10:22:41 AM

tsip pinascoot, ang veloci po ay nakapagpasok ng 1000 units ng px italy at lml combined na po yan ha, 15 hexagons, 12pcs et4 125, 8skippers, 10 typhoons. san poh ng galing yung extra 1000 units ng PX po? precise po ang numbers na binigay ko.

ang tanong ko po lang may demand po ba ang GT? suwerte ang mga nakakuha ng GT kung sa ganun.

kaya GT po ang pinili nyo sabi po ni sir resty na mayaman po daw kayo.. May PX at GT daw po kayo. Kaya di talaga kayo umalis.. ahihihi  ;D

Peace po sir pinascoot! pang vitto lang po ako.


makoy,

This topic would fall down to a heavy debate. As, i myself would say I love the PX and same with GT/Automatics, they all classify into the VESPA category so  "They are all Good Bikes" no comparison needed.

It is like comparing a hundred vespa owners to the 15 GT owners that edmund has mentioned. Definitely the ratio would be uneven. Based on the opinion given by the others, lahat ika nga ay magandang Vespa.

The "Mayaman thing" gamit na gamit na yan, i hope you are not turning into an angry mood  ;).

relax..


E
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: silver2tone on July 04, 2007, 01:58:29 PM

The "Mayaman thing" gamit na gamit na yan, i hope you are not turning into an angry mood  ;).


oo nga ginamit na yan ni wendy sa PBB ahihihihihi
OT OT i know. i love Vespas, the PX and the automatics..kaya nga ba nagpatattoo na eh di ba?
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: kalia on July 04, 2007, 08:42:43 PM
Id go with the automatic scoot for now(well my LX150). Easier to ride, maintain and efficient fuel consumption. In my opinion, its a case to case basis where you are actually, your alternatives to reduce transportation cost and what circumstances you might be in.

With my case, I can only ride an automatic scoot since my license here has a restriction for 12 months. After that, I can ride a manual scoot. And yes, I have to obey with the rules or else I loose my license. Although Im open to the option of owning another geared classic scoot one day.

The GT200 is a good, reliable machine. Im not sure if you've heard about the exhaust issues with the GTS 250 though. But thats a different model and story.

"The Mayaman Thing", dont make a big deal out of it. Bleh, its a worn out excuse. We all have brains to channel our thoughts and make a decision given a choice. If you want something, in that case a scoot of whatever brand or model, then set your heart and eye on it. Have the patience and work like mad coz one day its gonna be yours.

I didnt wake up one morning with the LX in my parking space! (I wish it was that easy) But I sure did had the thought ages ago, that in due time, I'll be riding a Vespa. Well, Iam now.  ;D


Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: tasca on July 04, 2007, 08:45:21 PM
BASTA AKO, GUSTO KO MA MEET SI PARENG MAKOY. :D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: fonzy on July 04, 2007, 09:16:34 PM
depends on your purpose of owning a scoot and age your group  ;D (joke)

for me, i like something with a history, which stood the test of time - px!

 8)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: spank me on July 04, 2007, 11:08:48 PM
basta ako, vespa or nothing!




ay, nag hexagon nga pala ako dati :P
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkyey on July 05, 2007, 06:24:19 AM
oo nga ginamit na yan ni wendy sa PBB ahihihihihi
OT OT i know. i love Vespas, the PX and the automatics..kaya nga ba nagpatattoo na eh di ba?

Corrine! Post mo pic ng tat mo! Sorry po, boss admin at OT ito.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: pinascoot on July 05, 2007, 08:59:27 AM
Very very nice guys. Really appreciate the difference of opinions being given here. Save one post by a fictitious bloke, this thread has shown great inteligence between vespa owners. Impressed and happy to have chosen the vespa!!!

I like the LXS :D

 
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: silver2tone on July 05, 2007, 09:18:34 AM
Corrine! Post mo pic ng tat mo! Sorry po, boss admin at OT ito.
direk,
its the avatar! also in the call me crazy thread. looks better now, di na dinudugo eh ahihihihi sorry mod for the OT
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: pinascoot on July 05, 2007, 09:46:27 AM
Just came from reading posts in Modern Vespa forums, one of the members signatures there reads;
"I'm riding tomorrow's vintage scooters today!" 

my thoughts about the GT, exactly. This applies to the PX too since it is the current geared model.

cheers!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: minggoy on July 05, 2007, 04:35:01 PM

if there are figures that do matter to me, it will definitely be about pricing. a choice between a new P180-190T PX150 versus a P250T GT200 is simply too close to call and will ultimately be a judgment call in relation to one's needs, priorities and means.

this helped me decide, for a 60k difference i would certainly choose the gt.

to get the best of both worlds i would choose a series 3 lambretta with a gilera engine  ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: aaron on July 06, 2007, 10:01:26 PM
mingoy
    meron na dto nyan gusto mo d ko lang alam kung nila ilalabas ;D,nakakabit na yung engine running na sya paintjob pa ata e ;)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: makoy on July 07, 2007, 12:13:26 PM
I'm impressed with your knowledge of the numbers of these units, it's obvious you know something about scoots whatever game you're playing on the site it's all good but I would highly appreciate it if you would refrain from jumping at the opportunity to correct, rather harshly, those who have, apparently, the wrong information.

Demand for the GT? Yes there is.  The GT has finally become available and affordable to those who may have the means to buy it.  There may not be as much as the PX/Vitto but there's a growing market for these new automatic Vespas.

And btw, your "mayaman po daw kayo" statement just rubs me the wrong way.

We're a very small community and a tight one nonetheless, I think we can act with a bit more class than that.



sir vespinoy, salamat po sa comment na binigay ninyo, wala po ako ibig ipalabas sa mga tao na magaling ako at naghahanap ng opprtunity na maicorrect sila. If i were that harsh i could have corrected a lot of the forumers with the wrong information that they were feeding to others. I am not playing any game in this forums sir, i meant well with the infos.

Tungkol naman sa mayaman po daw kayo, then i apologize. I may have chosen the wrong phrase to use.

Next time i will act with more class...
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: booblanco on July 07, 2007, 12:33:11 PM
Tungkol naman sa mayaman po daw kayo, then i apologize. I may have chosen the wrong phrase to use.

Next time i will act with more class...

just by apologizing, you're already showing some class, buddy. a lot won't. you'll make a fine forumer yet.

roll with the punches; tomorrow's another day.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkpal on July 07, 2007, 04:07:24 PM
wag lang tayong mag-magaling ...  ;)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: markot on July 08, 2007, 03:12:45 PM
makoy i think you better show up. people are starting to think that you're some forumer just making gulo. even the people you mention deny that they know you. sino ka ba talaga kuya? ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkpal on July 09, 2007, 03:24:58 PM
e ang haka-haka nga ng iba ay hindi tutoong tao si makoy, na gawa-gawa lang siya ng ibang forumer na nagtatago.

so ano ba talaga?!?
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: aaron on July 23, 2007, 10:55:26 AM
pag long ride sarap ang automatic pagshort rides and ikot ikot lang sa metro massarap talaga px kse ang gwapo mo sa px heheheh ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: randypogi on July 23, 2007, 06:56:14 PM
pag long ride sarap ang automatic pagshort rides and ikot ikot lang sa metro massarap talaga px kse ang gwapo mo sa px heheheh ;D

agree ako dito!  ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: rastaman on July 23, 2007, 06:59:21 PM
oo nga randy napansin ko nga enjoy na enjoy ka sa lx mo sa benking eh..eng gende neng hendleng.. ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: spank me on July 24, 2007, 07:47:32 AM
actually ok din sa city ang gt ;)

sa traffic, kung kayang lumusot ang px , kaya din ng gt :D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: randypogi on July 24, 2007, 11:47:10 AM
PX or LX?  basta may X ok ako!  ::)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: bartmaniac on July 24, 2007, 11:36:56 PM
PX or LX?  basta may X ok ako!  ::)

Randy, pati BMX? ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: randypogi on July 25, 2007, 08:40:58 AM
Randy, pati BMX? ;D

hahahaha!  ;D John, basta gawa ng orange county chopper yung BMX hehehehe....
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkyey on July 25, 2007, 09:40:22 AM
PX or LX?  basta may X ok ako!  ::)

XXX...di papasa sa testing yan.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: markot on July 25, 2007, 10:57:37 AM
randy xrm ok sayo? palitan ko lx or px mo ng dalawang xrm. what color do you like? ;)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: spank me on July 25, 2007, 05:48:08 PM
lowered pa ;)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: francis on July 26, 2007, 07:30:52 AM
at syempre dapat may sounds  ;)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: randypogi on July 26, 2007, 07:53:10 AM
at syempre dapat may sounds  ;)

hahahaha!  ;D yung sounds na tweater lang ang tunog!  :D

lowered pa ;)

yung pinaguusapan ba natin ay yung XRM ni ton?  pwede....hehehehe  ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: vespinoy on July 26, 2007, 08:46:45 AM
please get back on topic!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: aaron on July 26, 2007, 08:54:12 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: fedaplus on July 30, 2007, 04:15:58 PM
actually ok din sa city ang gt ;)

sa traffic, kung kayang lumusot ang px , kaya din ng gt :D
napansin ko nga when we got back from our Bicol ride... kahit ano pasikot-sikot gawin ko sa Nat'l hi-way, naka-buntot ka pa rin sa 'min ni doc jun... ;D ;D ;D
for me: PX sa ngayon, GTS 250 bukas... ::)
'di ba 'lex... ;)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: docjun on July 31, 2007, 10:44:56 AM
I'm still enjoying the px's classic "dating" factor on the other hand you'll never know the feeling of riding an automatic vespa ti'l you try one specially on a long ride! Bugbog na kami sa lubak at kakakambyo while yung mga gt's papiga-piga lang. Sana payagan ako ni kumander to have one ;D No budget for such toys right now. Anyway a vespa is a vespa is a vespa. 
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: lex on July 31, 2007, 02:41:29 PM
for me: PX sa ngayon, GTS 250 bukas... ::)
'di ba 'lex... ;)

ako next week na jong.. tight budget ngayon eh... mauna ka na, ... hahaha jk
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: randypogi on July 31, 2007, 04:12:17 PM
ako next week na jong.. tight budget ngayon eh... mauna ka na, ... hahaha jk

lex, bagay sa iyo LeX! hehehehe.... ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: lex on July 31, 2007, 08:22:05 PM
lex, bagay sa iyo LeX! hehehehe.... ;D

hmmmmmmmm...  :D

sorry OT!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkpal on August 01, 2007, 02:25:16 PM
i disagree.
mas bagay kay lex ang granturismo.

sorry for the OT boss.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: lex on August 01, 2007, 05:32:11 PM
 :D pahiramin nyo na lang ako randy and pal... haha ..

Going back to the topic... hindi ba mas ok geared sa byahe, mas masarap automatic sa city?
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkpal on August 02, 2007, 02:14:24 PM
di ko nabibiyahe ang GT ko, but so far, i'm happy with my city riding.
basta vespa ang sakay ko  :)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: rastaman on August 02, 2007, 02:47:34 PM
di ko nabibiyahe ang GT ko, but so far, i'm happy with my city riding.
basta vespa ang sakay ko  :)

chaka basta blue.. ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkpal on August 02, 2007, 02:52:00 PM
kahit anong kulay ok, so long as it's blue hehehe ...  ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: kubaklub on March 26, 2008, 07:36:37 AM
classic geared vespas like the PX150 and PX200 are scooters that are for keeps...because of its classsic look and practical form, it really appreciates over the automatics...but given the opportunity also get a GT Vespa... ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: kubaklub on March 26, 2008, 07:40:30 AM
classic geared vespas like the PX150 and PX200 are scooters that are for keeps...because of its classsic look and practical form, it really appreciates over the automatics...but given the opportunity also get a GT Vespa...its like buying a new european car and retaining your old vintage volkswagen or mini cooper ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: tasca on March 26, 2008, 01:46:35 PM
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8665/smbav1.jpg)

OR

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4299/bnb1hw5.jpg)


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: tasca on March 26, 2008, 01:49:32 PM
MALI POST KO. SA USED PX N BNEW VITTO DAPAT. HEHEHE SORY BIMBS. :-*
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Ben Dover on March 26, 2008, 05:58:05 PM
for me i would say they are just about the same. because they are of different leagues though same vespa. i used to have a black wasp in my younger days and sold it, noon yun. if i will have enough dough, i would definitely get a px again. but due to these issues on 2-stroke engines which is rumored to be banned soon here and there, if im lucky enough to hide the smell of my 'undeclared asset' against my wife's K9-sharp and precised sense of smell when i get back, i would definitely get a gtv.  ;D

..yun ay kung meron makukuhanan.

otherwise.., px pa rin.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: joneighbors on March 27, 2008, 10:21:16 AM
tasca hands down SMB! hehehhe.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Italix on March 27, 2008, 12:54:42 PM
It's like comparing the classic air-cooled beetle and the New Beetle, or the original mini with the New Mini of BMW.

The appeal of an old classic is really very different.  The fact that you can ride a scoot every day with the same (low) technology straight out of the 70s is certainly very satisfying for the classic fans like me.  Most folks like old stuff because of the emotional appeal that old things bring to us.  They remind us of simpler times, of the durability of machinery built in the past, and of lasting beauty.

The modern GTs, on the other hand, offer a different appeal all together.  Similar to the New Beetle and the New Mini, they retain the same heritage of the Vespa brand, and try to adhere to the same classic lines that have made Vespa an icon of transportation.  But they do not hide the fact that they are modern interpretations of the old classics.  They look very modern, and are loaded with all the modern technologies available.  For the GT, the technology inputs means better riding comfort, better fuel economy, better handling, better reliability, lower maintenance, less carbon emissions, more horsepower, better acceleration, faster speeds, better brakes, etc.

In conclusion, it a very difficult comparison to make indeed.  Perhaps its one that should not be made at all, it's like comparing apples to oranges.

The PX is a definite classic on the road, and offer tons of emotional appeal.

The GT, on the other hand, is based on a classic, but is not a classic.  At least not yet. To the rational mind, the GT is the better choice.  But as we all know, buying a bike is more than just a rational decision, but an emotional decision too. The emotions, in fact, often make the decision for us, and we end up rationalizing later.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: doomzday on March 27, 2008, 01:07:54 PM

very well said italix.

in short...

modern vespas =  pang long rides
classic vespas = pang city strolling

i really envy those who experience both.  so, ano pa hinihintay nyo... go to the nearest LOTTO outlet.  ang laki na daw ng jackpot eh.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: ryan on March 27, 2008, 02:57:34 PM
I'm a newbie when it comes to scootering in general but I think the special appeal of the PX is that it has that "old school" mechanical feel but its also still reliable enough to be used daily compared to even more classic Vespas. Plus there's an abundance of parts/accessories to keep them running.

Personally, I would still go for a modern Vespa (ET, LX, GT) as a first bike as you get all the recent safety, performance, and reliability features and if the itch is really there, maybe a PX.

:)

Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Daddy D on March 27, 2008, 03:54:53 PM
very well said italix.

in short...

modern vespas =  pang long rides
classic vespas = pang city strolling


i really envy those who experience both.  so, ano pa hinihintay nyo... go to the nearest LOTTO outlet.  ang laki na daw ng jackpot eh.  ;D

This is exactly why I got the LX in addition to my PX.

However, if you are like slick and randypogi, then the Gilera Nexus or Runner is also a nice addition when you feel the need for speed.
 
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: doomzday on March 27, 2008, 04:27:40 PM
This is exactly why I got the LX in addition to my PX.

However, if you are like slick and randypogi, then the Gilera Nexus or Runner is also a nice addition when you feel the need for speed.
 

wow congratz sa LX sir.  bnew ba or adopted? 

let's roll!!!!!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Daddy D on March 27, 2008, 04:36:03 PM

wow congratz sa LX sir.  bnew ba or adopted? 

let's roll!!!!!


Thanks, barnz.  Technically, its not brand new, but its only 1 week old and less than 200 kms on the odometer.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: doomzday on March 27, 2008, 04:50:20 PM
Thanks, barnz.  Technically, its not brand new, but its only 1 week old and less than 200 kms on the odometer.


wow.. great find pala.  nag upgrade ka agad ang old owner?  eto kaya yung may pics sa www.modernvespa.com?  hehehehe
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: ryan on March 27, 2008, 04:55:25 PM
Yup, that was my former LX. Only used it everyday around the city during the Holy Week holidays hehe

Congrats DMF!!! :)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: rastaman on March 27, 2008, 04:59:37 PM
congrats daddy...ibang level na kayo nina randypogi sa pagkolekta ng bespa..and syempre mas ibang level na si maestro... ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Daddy D on March 27, 2008, 05:00:18 PM

Yup, that was my former LX. Only used it everyday around the city during the Holy Week holidays hehe

Congrats DMF!!! :)


Thanks again, Ryan.  Suggest you also consider getting a PX, they still have several new PX2s at 2211.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: doomzday on March 27, 2008, 05:02:17 PM
Yup, that was my former LX. Only used it everyday around the city during the Holy Week holidays hehe

Congrats DMF!!! :)

wow!!!  GTV na ba?   ;)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Daddy D on March 27, 2008, 05:02:46 PM

congrats daddy...ibang level na kayo nina randypogi sa pagkolekta ng bespa..and syempre mas ibang level na si maestro... ;D


Thanks, rasta.  I fully agree, ibang level na talaga si maestro!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Daddy D on March 27, 2008, 05:21:12 PM


Going back to the topic... hindi ba mas ok geared sa byahe, mas masarap automatic sa city?


Did not really see an answer to this question of Lex yet.  Just a few thoughts -- for a long ride like Pagudpud, then the automatic seems easier and less tiring to use.  However, if the ride has a lot of twisties, then the geared might be easier to use.  Sky made a point last night of not being used to an automatic on a long ride due to the lack of engine brake, at least as compared to the PX.

For city riding, again I agree that an automatic is easier to use, but then again, the special appeal of the PX is something that cannot be ignored. 
 
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: randypogi on March 27, 2008, 07:13:45 PM
ang PX ay pang metrowalk!!! hehehehe...eye catching!  kahit pa may ducati sa tabi eh yung PX pa rin ang titingnan ng mga tao especially the cute girls.  ;D

get both para you have the best of both worlds!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkpal on March 27, 2008, 07:40:39 PM
to address dennis' last comment on riding a geared scoot on the twisties:
in my humble opinion and experience, having ridden both a manual and an automatic in long rides and twisties, you kinda get the "manual" feel on the twisties even if you're on an automatic, by way of throttling down on your automatic. when you let go of the gas for a bit, it feels a little like downshifting. so you still feel that you're in control.
at least, that's how it feels for me.
disc brakes on your front tire helps tremendously too towards maintaining control.

still and all, if i had the money, i'd still want to have a PX again, of course.

dennis, congrats on the new LX (akala ko ba yellow hehehe)  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: randypogi on March 27, 2008, 09:00:45 PM
tama din lex!  for me mas masarap ang automatic sa city especially sa traffic!  kakainis kasi shift ka ng shift ng gears.  ang hirap ng naka primera ka parati sa PX kasi naka upright yung left hand mo.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: ryan on March 27, 2008, 09:59:33 PM
Thanks again, Ryan.  Suggest you also consider getting a PX, they still have several new PX2s at 2211.


Yes, it would be nicE! Maybe someday .... :P
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: vespinoy on March 27, 2008, 10:09:45 PM
having ridden to pagudpud on both a px and a gt, i would say the gt is much much suited for long rides, whatever the conditions, straights twisties and all that.  there's much more comfort, at least on the GT, as compared to the PX.  yes you miss the fun factor of riding the px but you end up a lot fresher and radically less tired.

city riding? i prefer the PX, the gears really do make a difference riding in heavy traffic.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: PIETROS PIZZA on April 07, 2008, 09:37:18 PM
I'm pretty sure an automatic scoot is best for long rides. Relax na relax. I did enjoy riding the PX to pagudpud except it was really tiring and BUTT aching. Now i know why they call it the Iron/ Titanium butt ride!  ;D

E
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: sky on April 08, 2008, 06:47:17 AM
after the lucban ride on an automatic (et4), i felt the difference and the PLEASURE of an automatic!(rapsa)  I was less tired, woke up this morning not needing a pain reliever. hehehehheh

chairs!
 8)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: randypogi on April 08, 2008, 08:46:48 AM
after the lucban ride on an automatic (et4), i felt the difference and the PLEASURE of an automatic!(rapsa)  I was less tired, woke up this morning not needing a pain reliever. hehehehheh

chairs!
 8)

ang upo mo pormang PX pa rin  ::)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: ardieboots on April 08, 2008, 05:46:38 PM

get both para you have the best of both worlds!!!!  ;D ;D ;D

sarap ng madami pera!

ako, libre naman mangarap eh hehehe!

We do have an automatic scoot, pero i still prefer the PX. Nostalgic! whatever age, all give thumbs up. But i do want to own an LX.   

wala na talaga contentment eh noh?
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: batanglambak on April 08, 2008, 07:37:52 PM
automatic ... kase di ko kaya yung manual ...  :-[
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: rastaman on April 08, 2008, 07:40:27 PM
pag bumili ka naman ng automatic may kasama ng manual e.... :D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: badong15 on April 08, 2008, 07:55:28 PM
bwaahahaha!!tama ka dyan rasta ;D ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: wulffman on April 08, 2008, 08:08:47 PM
si pilpogs may manual... :D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: badong15 on April 08, 2008, 08:12:26 PM
sky,ano ok ba matic?nyahahaha!!si daddy d relax n relax sa lx..ayuuuss!!sarap ng ride enjoy
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: bartmaniac on April 08, 2008, 09:35:54 PM
pag bumili ka naman ng automatic may kasama ng manual e.... :D

Pag bibili ka naman ng manual na scooter, syempre automatic na dapat sakyan mo. ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: jbc529 on April 15, 2008, 11:48:08 AM
vespa px  ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: ryan on April 16, 2008, 09:20:26 AM
Thanks again, Ryan.  Suggest you also consider getting a PX, they still have several new PX2s at 2211.


That would be a nice idea  :)

Kaso lang I dont think my wife will allow me to get another scoot especially since I don't ride the GTS as much as I wanted to hehe
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Daddy D on April 17, 2008, 03:19:02 PM
That would be a nice idea  :)

Kaso lang I dont think my wife will allow me to get another scoot especially since I don't ride the GTS as much as I wanted to hehe


Based on your post, you have not asked your wife about it yet.  I suggest that if you really want a PX, just go ahead without asking her, hehe.  When you take the PX home, do not park it beside your GTS.  Park it somewhere else in your garage where she cannot see the 2 scoots together.  Of course, while these strategies may work for some time, you will eventually get caught, hehe, like i was, several weeks ago.  But that's another story...

Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: doomzday on April 17, 2008, 04:47:06 PM
Based on your post, you have not asked your wife about it yet.  I suggest that if you really want a PX, just go ahead without asking her, hehe.  When you take the PX home, do not park it beside your GTS.  Park it somewhere else in your garage where she cannot see the 2 scoots together.  Of course, while these strategies may work for some time, you will eventually get caught, hehe, like i was, several weeks ago.  But that's another story...



if your wife is color blind... pwedeng lumusot di ba daddy D?
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Daddy D on April 17, 2008, 05:00:56 PM
if your wife is color blind... pwedeng lumusot di ba daddy D?

afaik, my wife is not color blind.  however, since my scoots now are basically dark-colored, it looks the same at night.  that's why i tend not to switch on the light in the garage, hehe.

pero, of course, nahuli pa din, one time...

Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: rastaman on April 17, 2008, 06:57:15 PM
nag panic buying ng lx si daddy...ginawang bigas he he he ;)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkpal on April 17, 2008, 08:11:52 PM
... pagsindi ng ilaw:

"dennis! you got some splainin' to do ... !!! "
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Daddy D on April 17, 2008, 09:24:02 PM

... pagsindi ng ilaw:

"dennis! you got some splainin' to do ... !!! "


actually, it was a long, long explanation indeed...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2215/2419097403_ff4357357d.jpg)

of course, the red PX is now with Schuey.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: randypogi on April 17, 2008, 10:18:44 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2215/2419097403_ff4357357d.jpg)

round up sa new manila  ;D nice pix daddy d!  ;)

ok yung harap ng BWS parang naka smile  ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: ryan on April 17, 2008, 10:34:37 PM
Based on your post, you have not asked your wife about it yet.  I suggest that if you really want a PX, just go ahead without asking her, hehe.  When you take the PX home, do not park it beside your GTS.  Park it somewhere else in your garage where she cannot see the 2 scoots together.  Of course, while these strategies may work for some time, you will eventually get caught, hehe, like i was, several weeks ago.  But that's another story...



Sorry, I know this is Vespa forum but I'm actually kinda tempted to get a Honda SH300i from Italy ... I just don't know how to explain it to my wife yet...

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii109/jaggeddawg/hondash300i-8338-009-f.jpg)

:P

Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Maldito on April 17, 2008, 10:37:30 PM
Classic geared or Automatic na Vespa, meron si Daddy D!!!! Paglaki ko, wala.......papabili nalang ako kay daddy D!!!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: doomzday on April 17, 2008, 11:08:17 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2215/2419097403_ff4357357d.jpg)

round up sa new manila  ;D nice pix daddy d!  ;)

ok yung harap ng BWS parang naka smile  ;D

one azs with four scoots... nakteteng ang hirap pumili nyan!!!!  sa pag choose pa lang kung ano sasakyan... stressful na!!!

di ba randy?
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: spank me on April 18, 2008, 09:20:09 AM
very stressful nga itay, pagamit mo naman sa mga anak mo yung iba :P

mabuti pa pagamit mo na muna sa akin yung isa para mabawasan pagpipilian mo ;)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: zvesp on April 18, 2008, 09:27:54 AM
Ummm...monday,tue,wed,thurs,friday...where's for sat and sunday? :(
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: rastaman on April 18, 2008, 09:40:59 AM
actually, it was a long, long explanation indeed...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2215/2419097403_ff4357357d.jpg)

of course, the red PX is now with Schuey.


hindi ka rin mahileg sa vespa daddy noh? he he he
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: Daddy D on April 18, 2008, 10:08:08 AM
Ummm...monday,tue,wed,thurs,friday...where's for sat and sunday? :(

i only take the scoot around 3 times a week  --  wed, sat and sunday.  since the red PX is now with Schuey, and the plum will soon be looking for a new home, tamang tama lang. 

sarap lang talaga kunan ng pics ang vespa.  here's another pic...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2091/2419925568_5b103a1ca6.jpg)

para hindi OT, talagang good combination ang PX and a Vespa automatic.  Just ask sky, randypogi, cliff, ryandude, etc.
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: aaron on April 18, 2008, 10:13:19 AM
para hindi OT, talagang good combination ang PX and a Vespa automatic.  Just ask sky, randypogi, cliff, ryandude, etc.



cla cguro yung mga madami vespa :D ;) ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: batanglambak on April 18, 2008, 10:48:51 AM
parang gusto ko tuloy ng px ... sanayan lang naman yung pagkambiyo di ba? ...  :-\
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: francis on April 18, 2008, 11:43:45 AM
parang gusto ko tuloy ng px ... sanayan lang naman yung pagkambiyo di ba? ...  :-\
oo sanayan lang. tignan moko wala kasi ako pambili ng automatic na vespa kaya sanay na  sanay ako as geared vespa. hehehe ;D

Tama silang lahat, mas ok pa din that you have the best of both worlds. Isang automatic at isang geared. ;)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: grimace on April 18, 2008, 12:07:10 PM
parang gusto ko tuloy ng px ... sanayan lang naman yung pagkambiyo di ba? ...  :-\

kumuha ka na rin ng px tpos ride na tayo!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: sky on April 18, 2008, 03:56:19 PM
actually, it was a long, long explanation indeed...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2215/2419097403_ff4357357d.jpg)

of course, the red PX is now with Schuey.


hey hon, nag multiply sila!? or baka your seeing things!
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: spank me on April 18, 2008, 05:51:31 PM
parang naging ampon yung BWS sa italian family :D
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2215/2419097403_ff4357357d.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: direkpal on April 18, 2008, 09:00:48 PM
very busy ang parking valet mo dennis 'no?  ;D
daming kelangan balasahin na scoot ... hehehe ...
Title: Re: Classic geared PX or Automatic Vespa? which is the best for you?
Post by: batanglambak on April 18, 2008, 09:24:19 PM
kumuha ka na rin ng px tpos ride na tayo!!! ;D ;D ;D

nagriride naman ako ah ... kaso dito lang sa atin ... hahaha ...  ;D