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General Vespa Forum => The Modern Vespas (Geared) => Topic started by: markus_69 on June 15, 2013, 05:03:58 AM

Title: LML Star200
Post by: markus_69 on June 15, 2013, 05:03:58 AM
Guys any comment on this scooter?, I just order one for myself.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: df22 on June 15, 2013, 08:46:33 PM
Fuel Injected? Sinong dealer? How much?

Thanks!
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: silver2tone on June 17, 2013, 03:43:03 PM
Interesting price point :) Very good specs - 200cc 4 stroke!
Cyclemar is the distributor - not really sure if they have the wits to distribute a bike like this. I hear they are not known for aftersales support.  A 200cc 4-stroke geared bike is not common so if something goes wrong they should be able to repair it.  It's not really very similar to the 2-stroke version :)
If I did not have 2 Vespas already I would consider buying - at that price why not? But I have a bnew PX150...nothing compares to that :D

markus_69, is this your first geared scooter? good luck :D it will be enjoyable.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: markus_69 on June 17, 2013, 05:06:43 PM
I had a Vespa s, two weeks ago I acquire a px150 at Nuvali , it was a different experience for me to try a geared scooter, I find the px 150 quite slow, that's why I ordered the LML Star 200.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: silver2tone on June 17, 2013, 08:40:29 PM
Yes the px is slow. Speed is not the reason why people buy it. The look is only secondary. What do you think is best about the px? :)
The star, will not be much different I'm afraid. I dont think there is much difference between a stella or a px speedwise. If you want speed get a gts - that's what satisfies. I choose that over a Ducati :). Of course that is not tollway legal, but to me the range is just right.
A px style bike is not for everyone, but once it bites you, you will always want one.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: direkpal on June 17, 2013, 09:07:55 PM
i agree.
i started scootering on a PX and i had mine for 8 years. i rode it everyday, everywhere.
i wished that i didn't have to part with it to upgrade when the time came, but i had to.
now, having been on a GTS 300 for 3 years, i'm still in the "if i ever have any extra money to get myself a PX again,
i would" mode. i will always want one.
it's not about speed. it's the feeling that you get when you're on a classic ride.
it's timeless.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: markus_69 on June 18, 2013, 06:37:40 AM
Thanks guys for sharing your thoughts, well siguro nasanay Lang ako sa mga mio na naka steroids he he he he, silver2tone , I think the vespa had already bite me he he he he he.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: silver2tone on June 18, 2013, 10:46:14 AM
do give us a review when you get the lml
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Post by: rem on June 18, 2013, 12:40:48 PM
Just like to chime in and echo what everyone has said already, you dont buy and ride a vespa, lml, stella for speed. It's a lifestyle, a change in perspective. Basta! Enjoy lang ang ride :)

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Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: air_dude on June 18, 2013, 04:36:48 PM
planning on getting one also, tempting !!!
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: doomzday on June 19, 2013, 06:58:47 AM
aha!  a convert from japanese scoot to the classic look.  i too have taken the path.  i used to ride a suzuki raider 150 which 6 to 7 years ago was the fastest underbone in the market.  my first vespa was a PX incidently bought from corinne (silver2tone).  so my first thought was, it was 150cc and should have top speed at least like a honda wave but found out it was a bit slow but speed was not the reason i bought the scooter which for most of us here in vespinoy might attest.  IMHO, buying a classic vespa or any variance whatsoever is buying history, class, culture and the lifestyle.  if you can accept this, you'll love the scoot and will want more.  goodluck on the 4stroke 200cc.  i hope you'll provide a review of the scooter as many are intrigued about it.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: boybig on June 19, 2013, 08:52:04 AM
question: aside from the 200cc engine & price, how is the lml star different from the stella?
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: silver2tone on June 19, 2013, 09:08:33 AM
question: aside from the 200cc engine & price, how is the lml star different from the stella?
the badge? :)
i think the seat of the Stella is of better quality.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: gwafu on June 19, 2013, 11:56:50 AM
Isa lang ang gumawa LML pa rin. Ayon sa nabasa ko lang. Stella sa North America, LML Star sa Europe and Belladonna sa New Zealand.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: gwafu on June 19, 2013, 12:04:25 PM
mukang badge nga lang difference. ika nga ni silver2tone.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: doomzday on June 19, 2013, 12:39:05 PM
may available bang pang test drive yung dealer?  i agree with corinne, baka maging issue ang after sales support ng dealer.  this is a new scooter and cyclemar is known to do business with japs and china scooters. 
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Post by: rem on June 19, 2013, 01:37:56 PM
But if it's basically the same as the stella, less the badge, then we can go to our suking mekaniko. Unless warranty issues yan.

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Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: gwafu on June 19, 2013, 01:59:21 PM
Pag sablay cylemar sa service, bring it to 2211. Tatangapin kaya nila?
@markus_69 baka ma disappoint ka sa top speed. Nabasa ko lang din naman, maliit lang ang gain sa top end compared sa stella 150. top speed stella around 60-65mph(96kph-104kph) . star 200 around 70mph (112kph). lumakas lang arankada.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: vespinoy on June 20, 2013, 09:28:17 PM
Stella owner here.  You'll love the fuel economy of these bikes.  But yup, it's no speed demon.  I'm way past that anyway so I'm enjoying my Stella everyday, my PX occasionally.
Title: Re: Re: Re: LML Star200
Post by: rem on June 21, 2013, 07:25:33 AM
Stella owner here.  You'll love the fuel economy of these bikes.  But yup, it's no speed demon.  I'm way past that anyway so I'm enjoying my Stella everyday, my PX occasionally.

May ibang ride kasi si vespinoy when he wants speed ;)

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Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: johos on June 25, 2013, 09:59:48 AM

Check the site http://www.lmlocgb.co.uk/. Reviews are mixed.

I don't think you can compare it to the Stella as apples to apples per se. Genuine has a higher final QC needed for the Stella to make it Stateside as compared to LML. But how can you go wrong 99K for a 200cc 4T classic scoot! They have it in automatic also but in 125cc,and in India. Tempting!
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: direkpal on June 25, 2013, 11:01:13 AM
an automatic PX-body scoot?
whoa...
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: gwafu on June 27, 2013, 12:17:31 PM
start 125cc 4s automatica check this site.  http://www.lmlitalia.com/moduli/scooter/caratteristiche.php?idlinea=247
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: hakunon on July 24, 2013, 11:08:13 AM
Considering that this bike has 200cc engine.  Does the top speed will go at least 120kph? or less?
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: embryo31 on July 29, 2013, 09:43:44 AM
Katakot naman ang speed pala ng LML at stella. pang 80kph lang dibdib ko eh. Kung wala ako px baka kumuha din ako nyan stella or LML 200cc. Mura na na tipid pa sa gasolina.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: zachster on August 04, 2013, 09:20:15 PM
just my two cents...i have a 110cc and a 125cc bike..believe it or not my stella is still more frugal than those two. Sobrang tipid talaga despite the bigger displacement and the heavier body...its that engine man... 5 days a week on it goin around from merville to pasong tamo to shaw to gigs i spend around P75 bucks...
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: Gestapo on August 06, 2013, 12:13:34 PM
I just had mine this Saturday and a beginner in geared scooters. Here are my observations so far:

- The clutch cables and gear cables were slightly frayed making shifting difficult
- The engine is noticeably hot (right side) says my backride and an experienced PX rider.
- The angle of the headlamp can't be dipped to the road level as desired

I got it anyway and told the dealer I'll have the minor stuff fixed since I can't wet to get my hands on it. Overall I'm happy as a puppy! Will post along other observations once I get more knowledge regarding my new scoot.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: Daddy D on August 09, 2013, 03:39:40 PM
Did you already try to adjust the headlamp?  There should be a small adjustment bolt right below it on the lower headset.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: silver2tone on August 11, 2013, 07:35:45 PM
Congrats on your purchase Gestapo! What color did you get?


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Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: Gestapo on August 11, 2013, 10:47:45 PM
@Daddy D, it was Noy who told me it's maxed out to the lowest level already. I will perhaps try a different bulb and see how the lighting improves.

@C Thanks! I got the two-toned Orange-White. The Ivory White-Green looks better IMO but I still prefer the Orange Color. Right now they also have the Matte Black and Matte Green.

So far it seems noisy on idle compared to a Stella on idle. Some say it's because of the larger displacement but I think with a bit of fine tuning it may improve. I will need to compare to fellow LML owners if this is normal. I was able to use the scoot during the VCOP ride in Real, Quezon. The sweet spot is in the 3rd gear and can give quick acceleration on the twisties up to 60KMH. My top speed so far via GPS is 91KMH
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: silver2tone on August 12, 2013, 05:17:01 PM
How's the braking? I remember before on my 2-stroke LML ang lakas ng front brake nya, if you use it tatalsik ka :)
the front brake of my PX is more swabe
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: Gestapo on August 13, 2013, 11:08:51 AM
How's the braking? I remember before on my 2-stroke LML ang lakas ng front brake nya, if you use it tatalsik ka :)
the front brake of my PX is more swabe

On the city I seem to be using engine braking for anticipated slowdowns and use the front brakes as support to slow it down to the correct RPM before shifting. It seems to be usable maybe similar to the brakes of the PX and IMO I am just trying to get used to the handling as the PX type of scooters seems more delicate in balancing than my Fly. In my old scooter, I am confident doing an insta-brake even on not-so-good conditions. But here, going down a wet parking ramp, I have to put down both my feet on the ground as the tires get to slip.

I remember in the Real, Quezon trip by the way that it's usable even when braking on turns. There was a portion there near Real where the pavement suddenly ends, I was on a fairly high speed that time. Had slow down fast so that front brakes were used while I'm leaning (not much) and tires were screeching like morse code and surprisingly held up well.
Title: Re: Re: LML Star200
Post by: vespinoy on August 13, 2013, 11:13:09 AM
Front brakes of the stella reallu really strong.

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Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: embryo31 on August 14, 2013, 09:16:06 AM
Palit ka gulong gestapo. mukhang madulas ang stock na gulong ng LML/Stella. Ewan ko din lang kasi di ko pa din naman nasubukan. Sa tipid nyan parang gusto ko na talaga kumuha but I have to dispose 1 scooter.

Baka may gusto bumili ng vxr ko benta ko na sya.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: Gestapo on August 14, 2013, 05:40:35 PM
Will do soon Pres. Post na iyan tapos choose your poison. Economy and Silence of the Engine, go for the Stella. Power, go for LML. Bili na din!
Title: Re: Re: LML Star200
Post by: Gestapo on August 14, 2013, 06:39:08 PM
Sorry it's Jun pala. Hindi lang pala sa streets and directions ako lituhin pati names and handles din :P

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Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: twoniner on August 30, 2013, 10:02:07 AM
With respect to fit and finish, paint quality, chrome trim, etc., how do the Stella and Star compare?
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: Gestapo on September 03, 2013, 11:49:05 AM
With respect to fit and finish, paint quality, chrome trim, etc., how do the Stella and Star compare?

I suppose it does not differ that much from the factory since both are from the same. However, upon arrival there's a difference between quality "sa unang tingin" and gut feel for the Stella primarily because the dealership is more experienced and have a knack for quality. Most of the LML scoots have even plastic covers latched on the signal and tail lights, some tubes are missing, and for me the keys to my topbox is a pain in the butt to open everytime.
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: Gestapo on September 03, 2013, 01:20:54 PM
I meant glove box in the post above.

Just came back from Ilocos and here are some data I have gathered.

mode of riding: Wide Open Throttle
methodology: turn off reserve and gas up to the nearest station soon as fuel starvation is evident, record km reading and liters filled
kilometers recorded: 719.9km 6 fill-ups
average fill-up: 3.75 liters to full tank (not including reserve)
average range: 120km
average fuel efficiency 32.15 kmpl (far from the 50 kmpl claim perhaps due to the riding style)
Title: Re: Re: LML Star200
Post by: Gestapo on September 03, 2013, 01:26:10 PM
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Title: Re: Re: LML Star200
Post by: Gestapo on September 03, 2013, 01:55:42 PM
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The top speed remains on the 90 range despite the 2k mileage

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Record of the route homebound

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Title: Re: Re: LML Star200
Post by: projectV on September 04, 2013, 04:45:15 PM
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The top speed remains on the 90 range despite the 2k mileage

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/03/u7ubu3e4.jpg)

Record of the route homebound

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Title: Re: Re: LML Star200
Post by: Gestapo on September 05, 2013, 08:18:59 PM
98. something on the GPS surprisingly :D

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Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: silver2tone on September 07, 2013, 12:03:40 PM
Me ginawa ka Joseph? :)


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Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: projectV on September 09, 2013, 03:39:21 PM
Me ginawa ka Joseph? :)


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pinatest drive lang sakin... :)
Title: Re: LML Star200
Post by: Gestapo on September 16, 2013, 02:22:57 PM
Had some minor mishaps. Speedometer and Rear Light (park and brake) are as of now non-functional after 2,900++ kms